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Yes, we all know that Cartman hates Jews. And, we know he hates redheads. But is Kyle the only reason he hates them both?

Cartman's relationship with Kyle has gotten... better over the years, maybe? Well, Cartman has saved Kyle many times. He rescued Kyle from the smug storm in San Francisco, he brought him back to life after he was killed by manbearpig, and he gave him his kidney( well, he didnt exactly give). AAND Kyle has saved Cartman from drowning, and in Up the Down Steroid, Kyle says he is worried about 'his friend going to hell.' They have gotten HIV together, they've hugged, they've cried together... and Cartman agrees his life is dull and empty without Kyle to rip on. Well, maybe, Cartman, ERIC CARTMAN, cares, about Kyle. But does such a good job covering it up.

...or maybe it's more than a friendship. I mean, look at what Cartman forced Kyle to do. Suck his balls. He went all the way to Supreme Court, to Kyle's house, to Washington D.C., broke into the Pentagon twice, to the hospital with Kyle, and to Imaginationland where he finally got Kyle to suck his balls (kind of). Cartman once told Kyle to kiss his ass, and pulled his pants down, and said it HAD TO BE Kyle. And don't forget the time he took a picture of his balls and sent it to Kyle, or when he was a mere inch or two from a sleeping Kyle's face while talking to him. Eric also once pulled out a photo of an innocent looking Kyle and dragged his finger across his mouth as an act of lust, and says 'You will suck my balls.'Cartman also apolagized to Kyle for all the times he called him a 'Big dumb Jew,' and that he 'didnt mean it.'

...it's no secret any more. Cartman has a little crush on Kyle. He loves his constant bitching and arguing.

...well, in my opinion anyway.

I truly believe Cartman do likes Kyle more than anything, like when he saved him from the smug because he knows he can't live without Kyle to pick on and possibly lust of desire (in my opinion). I'm guessing that Cartman likes Kyle a lot more than friend that he hates it as he covers his love for Kyle into a hatred friendship. That's what I think.

Exactly, totally.

I went for the middle of the road and voted for him being bi-curious because I think that it's just friendship BUT we all know that Cartman wants Kyle to suck his balls..

Cartman's favorite hobby is hating Kyle. It wouldn't be as fun hating a dead guy. Besides, Cartman loves the joy of bugging Kyle. And if Kyle dies, I bet Cartman wants it so Kyle commits suicide after Cartman annoyed him to death.

I think cartman loves kyle and hates knowing it so he annoys kyle to try to convince him self that he doesn't love him. that's what I think's any ways.

I think Cartman might be crushing Kyle or a little bi-curious towards him... I mean The Imaginationland Triology kinda answers it. Sure, Matt and Trey say his motive is truly only to screw with Kyle, but I'm sure Cartman longs for something more if he will go through all that trouble trying to get Kyle to suck balls and THEN call him a "dirty girl" when he imagines Kyle doing so in Imaginationland.

Also, Cartman said he sneaked into Kyle's room a lot of times in an episode. Overall, he's really only satisfied when Kyle's suffering or Kyle is screwed with, so he's having some sadistic crush for him. I don't think Cartman hates Kyle absolutely, though.

There is no right or wrong opinion but here is mine:

I say Cartman just flat-out hates kyle. They don't really get along. Yes, they have saved eachother in the past but I don't think it means they 'like like' eachother. I think Cartman chased Kyle in Imaginationland because all he wanted was to embaress Kyle. And like he said when he was rescuing Kyle from the smug, he wasnt doing it for Kyle, he was doing it for his own personal gain. Because he needed someone to rip on who would react like how Kyle does.

And when Kyle saves cartman its because hes just that type of person. he will help out people he dislikes because he's just like that. I truly do not see any love in their relationship.

But anyways this is just my opinion. It may be right, it may be wrong.

Did you get into my mind or something?? lol Those are my exact thoughts.

I think you can take it to say that in Tonsil Trouble perhaps Matt and Trey made it out for them to be like that to show they are indeed enemies and Kyle expressing they are not friends. Kind of like a poke at the fans who think they like each other. Hey fans, they are not friends and hate one another. Here's to show how far Cartman hates Kyle- he'll give him AIDS. And yeah, makes sense.

Like you mentioned, Cartman has saved Kyle only for his personal gain. Because he knew Stan was right: he needs to rip on Kyle. Because he had to get Kyle to suck his balls to humiliate him.

I rant on my hatred for this ship so often so I'll say I voted for: He just has a strong hatred for him.

I understand your opinion on Kyman and I won't judge on you of not liking it. You can say they have a strong hatred to each other and anything else, it doesn't matter in my opinion. I still support them as a couple

Thanks. I really don't mean for things I say about them to come out harsh, it's just one of a few ships I cannot stand and the way I look at it... I don't know how someone can disagree with it or not understand how I view things between them. So I hope Kyman fans do see what I am trying to say when it comes to them. If they can see why I don't like Cartman with Kyle and like Cartman with Stan instead, then that means a lot to me. They don't have to agree necessarily, just accept my reasons behind it.

All I all I hope all slash fans can accept that the boys are not gay for each other. At least I know they aren't.

That's kinda how I think about it, too. Before, I was such a major StYle fan, but now that I'm older I realize if any South Park Slash came true, I wouldn't be satisfied at all. Even Cartman out of all characters shouldn't become canon queer (despite the numerous incidents that proves he might be... XD)


More about my opinion on Kyman: Cartman might be gay for Kyle, but I'm sure the relationship is one-sided. Kyle only reacts kindly to Cartman when Cartman doesn't act stupid or mean or when he looks really depressed/sick, but Kyle's usually nice anyway. Also, I don't think he'd fall in love with the boy who wants him dead half the time... Yeah, Cartman hates Kyle, but maybe Kyle's frown just turns him on. (I feel weird for saying that... ) lol Cartman just really acts like the abusive boyfriend type, though...

It''s no secret. Everybody knows that they have a love/hate relationship so I think that Cartman has a little crush on Kyle but not like a gay crush.

It's one of those feelings that when you really love someone, it's something that you can't live without and that's what Cartman has to admit to Kyle.

I think that they should do an episode about that and not wait until the series finale to do it.

I think we've all met those boys who think that any attention is good attention, and can't really figure out how to gain positive attention, so they'll pull a girl's hair and call her names, and then in high school they want to go to prom with her.
Cartman is the sort of little boy who would torment anyone he has a crush on. The furious levels of his interactions with Kyle could easily come from not being equipped to deal with his sexuality (well, who really is at nine or ten years old?) and struggling with a certain amount of self-hate, which could cause him to project hate towards Kyle. That's my take.
Kyle, for his part, hates Cartman, and rightfully so. (Anyone who's been a little girl tormented by a little boy knows how satisfying it can be to tell them to f*ck off six years later when they want a date. In my own experience, anyway.)